I’ve taken it out to 1307 yards no problem using standard AICS mags with no mods to and they feed great. (See the data on cartridges they’re running.) And the people and CS are too shelf. Great data. Okay. I had already looked at DJs. If you’re simply trying to optimize for smallest group size, then a slower twist is typically better, but this is a long-range game where optimal BC is high on the list of priorities. Ran some once fired today to figure out a load for a couple matches this weekend.

I can tell you’re a guy that really likes to test out components until you’re certain you’ve got the absolute best combination, so I really do appreciate your willingness to share your results.

September 2, 2019 To be honest, it surprised me to see how similar their load data was – they’re within 1/10th of a grain of each other!

Interesting first look at the percentages, and your friend’s experience.

32.4 gr of Varget, 105 hybrid, BR4 primer, A-team chamber, 5 shot group. Most Dasher shooters are getting 2980-3000 fps from 26" barrels from what I see. Minuteman. Cal There are enough deterministic and measurable elements to challenge you to learn, but still enough that we don’t know and are still trying to figure out that it’s elusive at the same time. Pre-order is on at A-team Precision’s website. P.S.–How does the 6mm Creedmoor stack up against the 240? I didn’t ask about barrel twist, Ed. That’s just over 95%! You must log in or register to reply here. Just get the Alpha dasher brass designed for the Lapua chamber. Barrel twist just didn’t make the cut, unfortunately. Lots of this comes down to personal preference, but I think that’s a killer setup. If not, try a .267 and .268 bushing and your 32.6 load with tighten up. None of the major ammunition factories have started offering 6mm Dasher ammo at this point, so reloading is the only way to go if you chamber a barrel in 6 Dasher.

And you’re right, often what is old becomes new again, just in a slightly different package. The very next post will probably tell you everything you need to know about load development for the Creedmoor and what bullets, primers, cases, and powder charges seem to be working the best out of the most rifles. Does someone have a precise OAL measurement for the formed Lapua brass? standard deviations (SD) in muzzle velocity, meaning the ammo is extremely And here we have the 100 FPS variation posted about earlier!!!! There was one guy running Hodgdon H4895 and one running Reloder 16, which could be good alternatives if you can’t find Varget – but Varget is definitely the clear favorite to fuel the 6 Dasher. Hey Cal, I just built a 6 creedmoor, Impact Action, Wade Stuteville 7.5 twist barrel, MPA chassis, triger tech diamond pro. Of the guys that were loading in that very popular band (32.3-32.5gr For sale Alpha 6 Dasher brass. Go straight BR or Dasher is my suggestion, Lapua in either case. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Product Information Cartridge: 6mm Dasher Finish: Brass Condition: New Quantity: 100 Primed: No Primer Size: Small Primer Pocket *This is not loaded ammunition. New Alpha virgin brass. I would go BRA if I was going to build a 6mm BR variant. If you’re wanting to know what the best spotting scope is, I’m sure most would argue that it’d have to be Swarovski. Thanks, Jon. Many of these shooters could be running “hot” loads, and just because the load is safe in their rifles, doesn’t mean it will be in your’s. Thanks for sharing, Bry.

I can say with a lot of confidence that most of these guys are using either the fastest twist possible for the caliber they’re shooting, or close to it. 6 Dasher, Alpha Brass. I appreciate you sharing your experience. no point in wasting time and effort cutting that much off a dasher neck. that configuration reported a miniscule standard deviation in muzzle velocity But it doesn’t mean those other cartridges aren’t effective … just means they aren’t as popular. Cal I know this has nothing to do with this post but I love you segments on what the pros use. Stay tuned! I probably should have stated that I can get the Norma product from a friend at a decent price, hence my curiosity. I had the same experience. Was wondering what is barrel life on 6 mm Dasher 3000 rouds?

And while we want to know all the details (me included), I am trying to strike the balance with the survey between respecting these guy’s time and not asking 100 questions, and trying to get the details that the majority of people see as most valuable. 45 Comments. This isn’t like short range BenchRest rifles where they use really slow twist rates. So, I figured I'd give Alpha 6 Dasher brass a try. 2925-2975 fps. 592F7C0F-3083-485C-9D9A-9D7FA78B74FF.jpeg. Just enter your email to receive notifications of new posts. Stay tuned. For the last several years I asked the top shooters questions about their load, like what bullet, primer, brass, and powder they used, but this year I asked about the specific powder charge weight they were loading. The barrel was done by PVA; I will contact them to get an idea. Golf and Guns: Cal, Thank you! Hey, John.

I say all that because I know you can load top-shelf ammo on a progressive, but I bet he’s sunk a few thousand into his setup. That’s an interesting thought, Larry. Austin Thank you and Cal Thank you for all this good info it’s much appreciated. My only advice beyond that would be to get one with a reticle. And, over the last couple years I’ve read nearly everything you’ve posted on your blog. of pressure as quickly as some of the other softer primers, so guys might be I'll have to see how much the cases grew and how it behaves on a second firing. Cal is a life-long learner, and loves to help others get into this sport he's so passionate about. What would you guys expect for velocity from a normal pressure 26 in reg br 103ish pills? Thanks, Andrew. I don’t have Aztec yet in my mk1 AMP. I chamfered 30 pieces and fired a few of those while starting load development. Founded by Frank Galli in 2014, Sniper’s Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to it’s users in one location. The CCI #450 primer was used 5 to 1 over That is a detail that I think a significant number might not be able to remember off the top of their head. Hey, Steve. Great article as always . Go figure.

When it’s dry out it runs super smooth but man when they get wet ???? I don’t have a lot of experience with the 240 Weatherby or 264 Win Mag, so I’d be guessing at how they compare. I guess most of these top shooters don’t agree with your comment that “Bergers are stupidly expensive,” but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I’m sure I’ll be one of the guys that references it the most! No idea on delivery schedule but we have waited this long for factory Lapua. Only had 5 loaded up at that charge weight. Just got ahold of both once fired Lapua Dasher brass and some fresh Alpha brass. What is “worth it” and what is “stupidly expensive” all depends on your priorities. I personally asked Austin Orgaine how long he runs his 6 Dasher barrels.

Primer was clearly the favorite among this group of elite shooters. Belligerents. Need to get that in the next week or two. It definitely didn’t do that out of the box! I would have said 95% a few hours ago, but I just spent another 4 hours just working on the next one! I haven't seen formed Lapua side by side by with the Norma 6mm Dasher factory brass, and I can't find any reference to differences in the. I’m pretty sure I was one of the very first recipients from the general release of the brass a few weeks ago. 1 of 9 Go to page. I just jump into 6BR not 6 dasher because the case need work. Thanks again for sharing what works best for you! I am in the process of obtaining a rifle from an acquaintance which sports a barrel reamed for Lapua 6mm Dasher. I’m getting 2920 FPS in my dasher with 105 hybrids and 31.8 grains of Varget. Trouble is, you get a guy here that expects to see 2950fps from a 6BR and a 105 and he's almost cerianky going to be separating cases. The longer neck of the Norma Dasher is nice compared to a standard 6 Dasher. Sometimes we gravitate to the cartridges that are offered by the best brass manufacturers, and I’d suspect your options for match-grade brass in those other cartridges may be limited. Hope this helps you understand why the Lapua bullets may not have made the list. Multiple shooters have said the reduced recoil and extreme consistency Use Lapua brass and compete with your fire forming loads. So, I can definitely confirm brass has more pressure/speed than lapua at same charges. In comparison to second or third loading on hydro formed Lapua from Hunts, the Alpha does show pressure signs earlier. Thank you. Discussion in '6BR, 6BR Improved & Wildcats' started by alleycat, Feb 3, 2020. I didn’t even think about that until you asked about it. I am using 8.3 and 8.5 twist and getting world class accuracy out to 1000 yards. But even I find these articles fascinating! Old thread, but for what it’s worth my buddy has gone top 5, including a 3rd and a 2nd at his last three 2-day PRS matches with a straight 6BR & 105s. Next time can you please ask or try to include bullet jump. No thanks to the 105s so don't waste your finger strength. Using my LAB Radar my last 15 round practice group has an extreme spread of 8 feet per second ,none of the other brands came close. And while some of us enjoy tinkering with loads, knowing what load other accomplished shooters found as the “sweet spot” for a cartridge may help minimize time in the reloading room and maximize time at the range. Are you running a mandrel or expander ball? BR guys are always pushing the envelope. That is odd, because Lapua bullets have been used by some of the top shooters in prior years (see the data), although they have never been represented in large numbers among this group. I am on second loading of 300 alpha cases in 6 Dasher. Really like the Charge weight/bullet weight chart, fascinating how tightly they grouped, especially those using the same bulletweights. Good to hear from you.

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